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  • #4615
    terry connelly
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      Always good to have someone play devil’s advocate, but are you playing devil’s advocate or are you just stating your preference about the style of photography you prefer? I have many friends who also prefer not to use any manipulation of their photos other than the bare basics, certainly nothing that would be considered AI. They are amazing photographers and I am impressed by their work. I don’t see their preferred style as making my preferred style less than. We all just use different tools to express ourselves. We each have different visions. It is all still art, it is all still an expression of how we experience the world. It is not a competition of which style is best.

      My question though is if we do choose to use AI how far are we willing to go with it? At what point does it cease to be our work and become just another generated work? Personally, I love to go out and just take the photo, but I also love to kibitz with the post-processing. I do not feel that makes me less or more of an artist. What makes me an artist is the ability to visualize and create something from my experiences, feelings, and the skills I have learned. A machine like AI may have crazy skills but it lacks the experiences and feelings.

      #4617
      philliphann
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        “I agreed with everything but the last paragraph you wrote Phill. Even if AI allowed us in the future to specifically select the photos that would go into what we are working on, It, not us would still be creating the toothpaste. I could see asking for a car say and AI going through our library to show us all the cars there. ( It can do that now I believe ) If then we select the car and proceed from there to make a work …………. well that is, I think different.”

        Terry, I probably wasn’t clear enough with my example, but I do agree with your last two sentences above.

        On a related subject, Adobe’s “Content Credentials” might eventually provide a way to attach documentation to our images that includes our source file data and all editing steps, including use of AI.   Currently it is in beta.  Read more at:
        https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/content-credentials.html

        – Phil Hann   (not “Hahn” ?)

         

        #4618
        terry connelly
        Participant

          That is really interesting, I had not heard anything about “Content Credentials.” I think in general being able to document the processes is a step in the right direction. Thank you for putting this up. Encouraging to hear thoughtful progress.

          #4619
          SteveM CompChair
          Keymaster

            Sorry, Phil, brain fart: I sometimes use Hahnemuhle paper for printing photos.

            #4633
            terry connelly
            Participant

              Interesting article on the subject. It mirrors much of what we have talked about too.

              https://petapixel.com/2023/05/30/art-and-a-i-debating-the-definition-of-creativity/

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