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Not all art has the same expectations. In realistic styles, I might expect to “know” or recognize “what it is.” In abstract art, I have no such expectation. To judge everything by the same expectations show a lack of artistic background and understanding in my view. I think there are still artistic principles that are important in any work of art. Composition, Color theory, and an understanding of tonal quality, intentional focus, etc. are all far more relevant to any work than any need to “know what it is” in my view.
As to this work, I find the different textures in it intriguing. My mind does explore recognizable possibilities such as an umbrella or an eye. In the end, though that is unimportant and I can appreciate it for its artistic merits. I think the image has some magic and leaves me questioning however I am pulled out of the frame at the sides. The balance here is not working for me even though I am intrigued by the center.
Thank you for having this event at your home. It is wonderful to have these social opportunities with everyone.
Thank you, Steve, both for your comment and for the support. Now, will others who do not normally post here do so, or will this remain the voices of a very few who see this as a genuine form of communication and place of learning?
It was a fabulous party and you captured it so well Mike. I can see why you love the lens you used, very sweet!
Thank you Steve and Toni you have made a memorable moment for the club and for each of us who were there.
Jeremiah’s Photo Corner, is very professional, they do great work. http://www.jeremiahsphotocorner.com/
I did a transform, clicked to accept it and now there is a “ghost” image of the transform that remains in view until I close out. Online mentioned “legacy” in preferences but I have not been able to find a cure for this there.
With regard to your opinion and the comparison to analog that is how I see it also. Once we left the world of the darkroom IMO we entered a new world where the concept of what a “pure” photo is changed forever. Lr or Ps have some tools which can duplicate those we would have found in the darkroom. AI though as we find it in Luminar and various other programs depends on outside algorithms as I understand this and take the work and decision-making out of the hands of the maker. The maker can of course choose to use only parts of those algorithms which does put more control back into their hands, but is it still the same thing? Not sure ………..
Programs such as Topaz go another step and create what I see as an overlayer that takes the work further into a new world and away from the photo that was originally conceived. That is not a “wrong” thing to my mind or “bad” as some might perceive it, it is just a different direction. To my mind, all works when viewed with an objective mind need to be evaluated according to the skills and knowledge presented in their presentation. In other words, have they been done well and do they show the necessary skills in the art form they purport to represent? In a photo that possibly means focus, lighting, etc. “Impact” or “Wow” which are popular terms currently used are determined on those and other merits and not some magical component that can’t be explained. MHO anyway.
So, if my perception is that anything that is not straight from the camera is somehow inferior I have been influenced as to how I see that work. For me, it simply makes more sense to accept that work as a different art form that while having originated from a photo is no longer a photo and to accept it for what it is, a new form of art. Whether it is well done or not is another matter.
So, as a “camera” club where does, that take us? I don’t see a need for any formal recognition but for me personally, there is a further mental categorizing of how I view what I do and what I see. Photos, for me, are anything that most closely resembles what I would have expected to come out of a dark room. Photos that have been processed more severely in regard to light and shadows etc. still fall under this category to me. All the other hundreds of program cameras and phones that take the process further out of the hands of the maker, for me, have moved into another category which I view as manipulated photos. They are no less worthwhile, but how I view them has changed. How well they have been accomplished and the skills of the maker are the thing that matter most to me. Do I have a preference? Not really, I view them as two separate art forms and judge them each differently. Does any of this matter? Maybe not, but to me, it just furthers my understanding of both what I am looking at and how I as a person perceive what I look at which I feel will help me be more observant and hopefully a better artist.
Thank you for your thoughts, Steve. By hearing others’ thoughts I am challenged to better form my own.
Here is the latest on the First Social Gathering Potluck to be held at Ragle Range on June 19th at noon. https://parks.sonomacounty.ca.gov/visit/find-a-park/ragle-ranch-regional-park
We have rented the area known as Lions Grove Picnic Area. Lions Grove is below the tennis area. The site can sit up to 50 members. If you have a regional parks pass parking is free otherwise parking is $7. Â Map https://www.sonomahikingtrails.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ragle-ranch-regional-park-map.pdf
Hope we can make this a wonderful opportunity to get together in a social setting, get to know each other better and learn something as well.
It will help us to know the questions below so please take the time to answer them and send back to me. Do not hesitate to email me privately at tcnorthwind@sonic.net Please do not send out as a reply all.
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Terry
So far we have 11 who have responded that they will be attending. 4 of those use Sony mirrorless, 2 Nikon, 2 Canon mirrorless, and 2 Olympus. I am looking forward to learning more from members who share my camera and I hope others of you are also.
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